{"id":501,"date":"2018-01-12T16:39:05","date_gmt":"2018-01-12T15:39:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.magnusmanske.de\/?p=501"},"modified":"2018-01-12T16:39:05","modified_gmt":"2018-01-12T15:39:05","slug":"playing-cards-on-twitter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/magnusmanske.de\/wordpress\/archives\/501","title":{"rendered":"Playing cards on Twitter"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So this happened.<\/p>\n<p>Yesterday, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wikidata.org\/wiki\/User:Pigsonthewing\">Andy Mabbett<\/a> asked me <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/pigsonthewing\/status\/951434164720623616\">on Twitter<\/a> for a new feature of <a href=\"https:\/\/tools.wmflabs.org\/reasonator\">Reasonator<\/a>: Twitter cards, for small previews of Wikidata items on Twitter. After some initial hesitation (for technical reasons), I started playing with the idea in a test tweet (and several replies to myself), using Andy as the guinea pig item:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Testing, ignore\u2026<a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/9PTZee7fb4\">https:\/\/t.co\/9PTZee7fb4<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Magnus Manske (@MagnusManske) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MagnusManske\/status\/951463398478352385?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">January 11, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Soon, I was contacted by <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/erikaherzog\">Erika Herzog<\/a>, who I did work with before on Wikidata projects:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">I love your work but this is a plea \/ request: Please use a less problematic example to test with Magnus.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Erika Herzog (@erikaherzog) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/erikaherzog\/status\/951468138159312901?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">January 11, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>That seemed like an odd thing to request, but I try to be a nice guy, and if there are some &#8230; personal issues between Wikidata users, I have no intention of causing unnecessary upset. So, after some more testing (meanwhile, I had found a Twitter page to do the tests on), I announced the new feature to the world, using what would undoubtedly be a suitable test subject for the Wikipedia\/Wikidata folk:<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MagnusManske\/status\/951477158291103744\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-504 alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/magnusmanske.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Screen-Shot-2018-01-12-at-15.06.07.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"297\" height=\"305\" srcset=\"http:\/\/magnusmanske.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Screen-Shot-2018-01-12-at-15.06.07.png 297w, http:\/\/magnusmanske.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Screen-Shot-2018-01-12-at-15.06.07-292x300.png 292w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 297px) 100vw, 297px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nBoy was I wrong:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Ugh. Jimmy?!? Gads. How about Oprah?!!<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Erika Herzog (@erikaherzog) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/erikaherzog\/status\/951712383306813441?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">January 12, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>I basically woke up to this reply. Under-caffeinated, I saw someone tell me what to (not) tweet. Twice. No reason. No explanation. Not a word on why Oprah would be a better choice as a test subject in a tweet about a new feature for a Wikidata-based tool. Just increasing aggressiveness, going from &#8220;problematic&#8221; to &#8220;Ugh&#8221; and &#8220;Gads&#8221; (whatever that is).<\/p>\n<p>Now, I don&#8217;t know much about Oprah. All I know is, basically, what I heard characters in U.S. sit-coms say about her, none of which was very flattering. I know she is (was?) a U.S. TV talk show host, and that she recently gave some speech in the #metoo context. I never saw one of her talk shows. She is probably pretty good at what she does. I don&#8217;t really care about her, one way or the other. So far, Oprah has been a distinctively unimportant figure in my life.<\/p>\n<p>Now, I was wondering why Erika kept telling me what to (not) tweet, and why it should be Oprah, of all people. But at that time, all I had the energy to muster as a reply was &#8220;Really?&#8221;. To that, I got a reply with more Jimbo-bashing:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Yeah really. I mean at least use Douglas Adams or something. Jimmy Wales is incredibly problematic on so many levels. I don\u2019t think he needs more self-aggrandizing. He isn\u2019t Wikipedia but he presents himself that way. It\u2019s just enough. A woman, person of color, so many options<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Erika Herzog (@erikaherzog) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/erikaherzog\/status\/951713747659382784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">January 12, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>At which point I just had about enough of this particular jewel of conversation to make my morning:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">First, don&#39;t tell me who or what to tweet about <br \/>Second, you insulted a Wikimedian of the year.<br \/>Third, you insulted the founder of Wikipedia.<br \/>But worst of all, you would prefer a fucking talk show host.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Magnus Manske (@MagnusManske) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MagnusManske\/status\/951714421755334656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">January 12, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>What follows is a long, horrible conversation with Erika (mostly), with me guessing what, exactly, she wants from me. Many tweets down, it turns out that, apparently, her initial tweets were addressing a &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/erikaherzog\/status\/951826658050310144\">representation issue<\/a>&#8220;. At my <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MagnusManske\/status\/951827961577123841\">incredulous question<\/a> if\u00a0 she seriously demanded a &#8220;women&#8217;s quota&#8221; for my two original tweets (honestly, I have no idea <em>what else<\/em> this could be about by now), I am finally identified as the misogynist cause of all women&#8217;s peril in the WikiVerse:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">This is why women in <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Wikipedia?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@Wikipedia<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/wikidata?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@wikidata<\/a> are well and truly fucked. Thank you for at least being honest about it!<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Erika Herzog (@erikaherzog) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/erikaherzog\/status\/951828578018168833?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">January 12, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Good thing we finally found the problem! And it was right in front of us the whole time! How did we not see this earlier? I am a misogynist pig (no offence to Pigsonthewing)! What else could it be?<\/p>\n<p>Well, I certainly learned my lesson. I now see the error of my ways, and will try to better myself. The next time someone tries to tell me what to (not) tweet, I&#8217;ll tell them to bugger off right away.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So this happened. Yesterday, Andy Mabbett asked me on Twitter for a new feature of Reasonator: Twitter cards, for small previews of Wikidata items on Twitter. 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